1 # Tips and Tricks for using notmuch with Emacs
3 One of the more popular notmuch message reading clients is
4 **notmuch.el**, an [emacs](http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) major
5 mode for interacting with notmuch. It is included in the notmuch
6 package (notmuch-emacs in Debian). This page goes over some usage
7 tips for using notmuch with Emacs.
13 Have a look at the [Howto](http://notmuchmail.org/howto/) for
14 prerequisites. Be sure you have done the general setup using the
17 To use the Notmuch emacs mode, first add the following line to your
22 or you can load the package via autoload:
24 (autoload 'notmuch "notmuch" "notmuch mail" t)
26 Then, either run "emacs -f notmuch", or execute the command `M-x
27 notmuch` from within a running emacs.
29 ## Navigating & reading mails
31 When first starting notmuch in emacs, you will be presented with the
32 notmuch "hello" page. If it exits with an error after writing
33 "Welcome to notmutch. You have" you need to do the basic notmuch setup
35 From here you can do searches, see lists of recent
36 searches, saved searches, message tags, help information, etc.
38 Executing a search will open a new buffer in `notmuch-search-mode`
39 displaying the search results. Each line in the search results
40 represents a message thread. Hitting the '?' key will show help for
43 In general, the 'q' will kill the current notmuch buffer and return
44 you to the previous buffer (sort of like a 'pop').
46 In search mode, navigating to a thread and hitting return will then
47 open a new buffer in `notmuch-show-mode`, which will show the actual
48 message contents of the thread.
52 In any notmuch mode, you can start a new message by hitting the 'm'
53 key. To reply to a message or thread, just hit the 'r' key.
55 When composing new messages, you will be entered in emacs's
56 `message-mode`, which is a powerful mode for composing and sending
57 messages. When in message mode, you can type `C-c ?` for help.
59 If you would like to use address autocompletion when composing
60 messages, see [address completion](#address_completion).
62 When you are ready to send a message, type `C-c C-c`. By default
63 message mode will use your sendmail command to send mail, so make sure
64 that works. One annoying standard configuration of message mode is
65 that it will hide the sent mail in your emacs frame stack, but it will
66 not close it. If you type several mails in an emacs session they will
67 accumulate and make switching between buffers more annoying. You can
68 avoid that behavior by adding `(setq message-kill-buffer-on-exit t)`
69 in your `.emacs` file (or doing `M-x
70 customize-variable<RET>message-kill-buffer-on-exit<RET>`) which will
71 really close the mail window after sending it.
75 Using the `M-x mml-attach-file` command, you can attach any file to be
76 sent with your mail. By default this command is bound to the menu item
77 *Attachments--Attach File* with the key binding `C-c C-a`. The
78 variable `mml-dnd-attach-options` (`M-x
79 customize-variable<RET>mml-dnd-attach-options<RET>`) can be set to
80 allow the prompting for various attachment options (such as
81 inline/attachment) if you want to do that.
83 For those who prefer a more graphical interface, you can also simply
84 drag and drop files from a file manager into a mail composition window
85 to have them attached. In Ubuntu this works without any modifications
86 if files are dragged from the file manager.
88 And for those who prefer working from command line, the following
89 script opens new emacs window with empty message and attaches files
90 mentioned as script arguments. (Note: The script expects that you have
91 `(server-start)` in your `.emacs` file.)
96 fullpath=$(readlink --canonicalize "$1")
97 attach_cmds="$attach_cmds (mml-attach-file \"$fullpath\")"
100 emacsclient -a '' -c -e "(progn (compose-mail) $attach_cmds)"
102 ## Issues with Emacs 24
104 If notmuch-show-mode behaves badly for you in emacs 24.x try adding one of
106 (setq gnus-inhibit-images nil)
116 # Advanced tips and tweaks
118 ## Use separate emacs lisp file for notmuch configuration
120 Instead of adding notmuch configuration code to `.emacs`, there
121 is an option to collect those to a separate file (which is only
122 loaded when `notmuch` is invoked). To do this, write, for example
123 a file called `~/.emacs.d/my-notmuch.el`:
125 ;;; my-notmuch.el -- my notmuch mail configuration
128 ;;; add here stuff required to be configured *before*
129 ;;; notmuch is loaded;
131 ;; uncomment and modify in case some elisp files are not found in load-path
132 ;; (add-to-list 'load-path "~/vc/ext/notmuch/emacs")
137 ;;; add here stuff required to be configured *after*
138 ;;; notmuch is loaded;
140 ;; uncomment & modify if you want to use external smtp server to send mail
141 ;; (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp.server.tld"
142 ;; message-send-mail-function 'message-smtpmail-send-it)
143 ;; uncomment to debug smtp sending problems
144 ;; (setq smtpmail-debug-info t)
146 Then, add to `.emacs`:
148 (autoload 'notmuch "~/.emacs.d/my-notmuch" "notmuch mail" t)
150 ## 0.15: Initial cursor position in notmuch hello window
152 In notmuch 0.15 emacs client the handling of cursor position in notmuch hello
153 window has been simplified to a version which suits best most cases.
155 Initially the cursor is positioned in the beginning of buffer.
157 Some users liked the "ancient" version where cursor was moved to the
158 first `Saved searches` button.
160 Add the following code to your notmuch emacs configuration file in
161 case you want this behaviour:
163 (add-hook 'notmuch-hello-refresh-hook
165 (if (and (eq (point) (point-min))
166 (search-forward "Saved searches:" nil t))
170 (if (eq (widget-type (widget-at)) 'editable-field)
171 (beginning-of-line)))))
173 ## Add a key binding to add/remove/toggle a tag
175 The `notmuch-{search,show}-{add,remove}-tag` functions are very useful
176 for making quick tag key bindings. For instance, here's an example
177 of how to make a key binding to add the "spam" tag and remove the
178 "inbox" tag in notmuch-show-mode:
180 In notmuch versions up to 0.11.x
182 (define-key notmuch-show-mode-map "S"
184 "mark message as spam"
186 (notmuch-show-add-tag "spam")
187 (notmuch-show-remove-tag "inbox")))
189 Starting from notmuch 0.12 the functions `notmuch-show-add-tag` and
190 `notmuch-show-remove-tag` have changed to be more versatile and lost
191 noninteractive use. When upgrading to 0.12 the above needs to be
194 (define-key notmuch-show-mode-map "S"
196 "mark message as spam"
198 (notmuch-show-tag-message "+spam" "-inbox")))
200 You can do the same for threads in `notmuch-search-mode` by just
201 replacing "show" with "search" in the called functions.
203 Starting from notmuch 0.12 use `notmuch-search-tag-thread` instead:
205 (define-key notmuch-search-mode-map "S"
207 "mark messages in thread as spam"
209 (notmuch-show-tag-thread "+spam" "-inbox")))
211 Starting from notmuch 0.13 use `notmuch-search-tag` -- it has a little
212 different usage syntax:
214 (define-key notmuch-search-mode-map "S"
216 "mark messages in thread as spam"
218 (notmuch-search-tag '("+spam" "-inbox"))))
220 The definition above makes use of a lambda function, but you could
221 also define a separate function first:
223 (defun notmuch-show-tag-spam ()
224 "mark message as spam"
226 (notmuch-show-add-tag "spam")
227 (notmuch-show-remove-tag "inbox")))
228 (define-key notmuch-show-mode-map "S" 'notmuch-show-tag-spam)
230 (See above for analogy how to apply this for notmuch 0.12 and later)
232 Here's a more complicated example of how to add a toggle "deleted"
235 (define-key notmuch-show-mode-map "d"
237 "toggle deleted tag for message"
239 (if (member "deleted" (notmuch-show-get-tags))
240 (notmuch-show-remove-tag "deleted")
241 (notmuch-show-add-tag "deleted"))))
243 And version for notmuch 0.12
245 (define-key notmuch-show-mode-map "d"
247 "toggle deleted tag for message"
249 (notmuch-show-tag-message
250 (if (member "deleted" (notmuch-show-get-tags))
251 "-deleted" "+deleted"))))
253 ## Adding many tagging keybindings
255 If you want to have have many tagging keybindings, you can save the typing
256 the few lines of boilerplate for every binding (for versions before 0.12,
257 you will need to change notmuch-show-apply-tag-macro).
259 (eval-after-load 'notmuch-show
260 '(define-key notmuch-show-mode-map "`" 'notmuch-show-apply-tag-macro))
262 (setq notmuch-show-tag-macro-alist
264 '("m" "+notmuch::patch" "+notmuch::moreinfo" "-notmuch::needs-review")
265 '("n" "+notmuch::patch" "+notmuch::needs-review" "-notmuch::pushed")
266 '("o" "+notmuch::patch" "+notmuch::obsolete"
267 "-notmuch::needs-review" "-notmuch::moreinfo")
268 '("p" "-notmuch::pushed" "-notmuch::needs-review"
269 "-notmuch::moreinfo" "+pending")
270 '("P" "-pending" "-notmuch::needs-review" "-notmuch::moreinfo" "+notmuch::pushed")
271 '("r" "-notmuch::patch" "+notmuch::review")
272 '("s" "+notmuch::patch" "-notmuch::obsolete" "-notmuch::needs-review" "-notmuch::moreinfo" "+notmuch::stale")
273 '("t" "+notmuch::patch" "-notmuch::needs-review" "+notmuch::trivial")
274 '("w" "+notmuch::patch" "+notmuch::wip" "-notmuch::needs-review")))
276 (defun notmuch-show-apply-tag-macro (key)
278 (let ((macro (assoc key notmuch-show-tag-macro-alist)))
279 (apply 'notmuch-show-tag-message (cdr macro))))
281 ## Restore reply-to-all key binding to 'r'
283 Starting from notmuch 0.12 the 'r' key is bound to reply-to-sender instead of
284 reply-to-all. Here's how to swap the reply to sender/all bindings in show mode:
286 (define-key notmuch-show-mode-map "r" 'notmuch-show-reply)
287 (define-key notmuch-show-mode-map "R" 'notmuch-show-reply-sender)
291 (define-key notmuch-search-mode-map "r" 'notmuch-search-reply-to-thread)
292 (define-key notmuch-search-mode-map "R" 'notmuch-search-reply-to-thread-sender)
295 ## How to do FCC/BCC...
297 The Emacs interface to notmuch will automatically add an `Fcc`
298 header to your outgoing mail so that any messages you send will also
299 be saved in your mail store. You can control where this copy of the
300 message is saved by setting the variable `notmuch-fcc-dirs` which defines the
301 subdirectory relative to the `database.path` setting from your
302 notmuch configuration in which to save the mail. Enter a directory
303 (without the maildir `/cur` ending which will be appended
304 automatically). Additional information can be found as usual using:
306 M-x describe-variable notmuch-fcc-dirs
308 An additional variable that can affect FCC settings in some cases is
309 `message-directory`. Emacs message-mode uses this variable for
312 To customize both variables at the same time, use the fancy command:
314 M-x customize-apropos<RET>\(notmuch-fcc-dirs\)\|\(message-directory\)
316 This mechanism also allows you to select different folders to be
317 used for the outgoing mail depending on your selected `From`
318 address. Please see the documentation for the variable
319 `notmuch-fcc-dirs` in the customization window for how to arrange
322 ## How to customize `notmuch-saved-searches`
324 When starting notmuch, a list of saved searches and message counts is
325 displayed, replacing the older `notmuch-folders` command. The set of
326 saved searches displayed can be modified directly from the notmuch
327 interface (using the `[save]` button next to a previous search) or by
328 customising the variable `notmuch-saved-searches`.
330 An example setting might be:
332 (setq notmuch-saved-searches '(("inbox" . "tag:inbox")
333 ("unread" . "tag:inbox AND tag:unread")
334 ("notmuch" . "tag:inbox AND to:notmuchmail.org")))
336 Of course, you can have any number of saved searches, each configured
337 with any supported search terms (see "notmuch help search-terms").
339 Some users find it useful to add `and not tag:delete` to those
340 searches, as they use the `delete` tag to mark messages as
341 deleted. This causes messages that are marked as deleted to be removed
342 from the commonly used views of messages. Use whatever seems most
345 ## Viewing HTML messages with an external viewer
347 The emacs client can display an HTML message inline using either the
348 `html2text` library or some text browser, like w3m or lynx. This is
349 controlled by the `mm-text-html-renderer` variable.
351 The first option is theorically better, because it can generate
352 strings formatted for emacs and do whatever you want, e.g., substitute
353 text inside <b> tags for bold text in the buffer. The library, however
354 is still in a very early development phase and cannot yet process
355 properly many elements, like tables and <style> directives, and even
356 the generated text is often poorly formatted.
358 Among the available browsers, w3m seems to do a better job converting
359 the html, and if you have the w3m emacs package, you can use it,
360 instead of the w3m-standalone, and thus preserve the text formatting.
362 But if the rendering fails for one reason or another, or if you really
363 need to see the graphical presentation of the HTML message, it can be
364 useful to display the message in an external viewer, such as a web
365 browser. Here's a little script that Keith Packard wrote, which he
371 cat "$@" > "$dir"/msg
372 if munpack -C "$dir" -t < "$dir"/msg 2>&1 | grep 'Did not find'; then
373 sed -n '/[Hh][Tt][Mm][Ll]/,$p' "$dir"/msg > $dir/part1.html
376 for i in "$dir"/part*; do
377 if grep -q -i -e '<html>' -e 'text/html' "$i"; then
384 Save that script somewhere in your `${PATH}`, make it executable,
385 and change the invocation of `iceweasel` to any other HTML viewer if
386 necessary. Then within the emacs client, press '|' to pipe the
387 current message, then type "view-html".
389 Keith mentions the following caveat, "Note that if iceweasel isn't
390 already running, it seems to shut down when the script exits. I
393 ## msmtp, message mode and multiple accounts
395 As an alternative to running a mail server such as sendmail or postfix
396 just to send email, it is possible to use
397 [msmtp](http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/). This small application will
398 look like `/usr/bin/sendmail` to a MUA such as emacs message mode, but
399 will just forward the email to an external SMTP server. It's fairly
400 easy to set up and it supports several accounts for using different
401 SMTP servers. The msmtp pages have several examples.
403 A typical scenario is that you want to use the company SMTP server
404 for email coming from your company email address, and your personal
405 server for personal email. If msmtp is passed the envelope address
406 on the command line (the -f/--from option) it will automatically
407 pick the matching account. The only trick here seems to be getting
408 emacs to actually pass the envelope from. There are a number of
409 overlapping configuration variables that control this, and it's a
410 little confusion, but setting these three works for me:
412 - `mail-specify-envelope-from`: `t`
414 - `message-sendmail-envelope-from`: `header`
416 - `mail-envelope-from`: `header`
418 With that in place, you need a `.msmtprc` with the accounts configured
419 for the domains you want to send out using specific SMTP servers and
420 the rest will go to the default account.
422 If you have a hard time getting the above to work for you, as I did,
423 it's also possible to add a message-send-mail-hook in your .emacs to
424 send the from header explicitly as an argument to msmtp as described
425 [here](http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/GnusMSMTP#toc2) on the
429 ## <span id="address_completion">Address completion when composing</span>
431 There are currently three solutions to this:
435 [bbdb](http://bbdb.sourceforge.net) is a contact database for emacs
436 that works quite nicely together with message mode, including
437 address autocompletion.
439 ### notmuch database as an address book
441 You can also use the notmuch database as a mail address book itself.
442 To do this you need a command line tool that outputs likely address
443 candidates based on a search string. There are currently three
446 * The python tool `notmuch_address.py` (`git clone
447 http://commonmeasure.org/~jkr/git/notmuch_addresses.git`) (slower, but
448 no compilation required so good for testing the setup)
451 [addrlookup](http://github.com/spaetz/vala-notmuch) (faster, but
452 needs compiling). The addrlookup binary needs to be compiled.
454 `http://github.com/spaetz/vala-notmuch/raw/static-sources/src/addrlookup.c`
457 cc -o addrlookup addrlookup.c `pkg-config --cflags --libs gobject-2.0` -lnotmuch
459 * Shell/fgrep/perl combination [nottoomuch-addresses.sh](http://www.iki.fi/too/nottoomuch/nottoomuch-addresses/).
460 This tools maintains it's own address "database" gathered from email
461 files notmuch knows and search from that "database" is done by `fgrep(1)`.
463 You can perform tab-completion using any of these programs.
464 Just add the following to your .emacs:
466 (require 'notmuch-address)
467 (setq notmuch-address-command "/path/to/address_fetching_program")
468 (notmuch-address-message-insinuate)
472 [GooBook](http://code.google.com/p/goobook/) is a command-line tool for
473 accessing Google Contacts. Install and set it up according to its documentation.
475 To use GooBook with notmuch, use this wrapper script and set it up like the
479 goobook query "$*" | sed 's/\(.*\)\t\(.*\)\t.*/\2 \<\1\>/' | sed '/^$/d'
481 You can add the sender of a message to Google Contacts by piping the message
482 (`notmuch-show-pipe-message`) to `goobook add`.
484 ## How to sign/encrypt messages with gpg
486 Messages can by signed using gpg by invoking
487 `M-x mml-secure-sign-pgpmime` (or `M-x mml-secure-encrypt-pgpmime`).
488 These functions are available via the standard `message-mode` keybindings
489 `C-c C-m s p` and `C-c C-m c p`. To sign outgoing mail by default, use the
490 `message-setup-hook` in your `.emacs` file:
492 ;; Sign messages by default.
493 (add-hook 'message-setup-hook 'mml-secure-sign-pgpmime)
495 This inserts the required `<#part sign=pgpmime>` into the beginning
496 of the mail text body and will be converted into a pgp signature
497 when sending (so one can just manually delete that line if signing
500 Alternatively, you may prefer to use `mml-secure-message-sign-pgpmime` instead
501 of `mml-secure-sign-pgpmime` to sign the whole message instead of just one
504 ### Troubleshooting message-mode gpg support
506 - If you have trouble with expired subkeys, you may have encountered
507 emacs bug #7931. This is fixed in git commit 301ea744c on
508 2011-02-02. Note that if you have the Debian package easypg
509 installed, it will shadow the fixed version of easypg included with
512 ## Multiple identities using gnus-alias
514 [gnus-alias](http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusAlias) allows you to
515 define multiple identities when using `message-mode`. You can specify
516 the from address, organization, extra headers (including *Bcc*), extra
517 body text, and signature for each identity. Identities are chosen
518 based on a set of rules. When you are in message mode, you can switch
519 identities using gnus-alias.
523 - put `gnus-alias.el` on your load Emacs-Lisp load path (add new directory
524 to load path by writing `(add-to-list 'load-path "/some/load/path")` into
527 - Add the following to your `.emacs`
529 (autoload 'gnus-alias-determine-identity "gnus-alias" "" t)
530 (add-hook 'message-setup-hook 'gnus-alias-determine-identity)
532 Looking into `gnus-alias.el` gives a bit more information...
534 ### Example Configuration
536 Here is an example configuration.
538 ;; Define two identities, "home" and "work"
539 (setq gnus-alias-identity-alist
541 nil ;; Does not refer to any other identity
542 "John Doe <jdoe@example.net>" ;; Sender address
543 nil ;; No organization header
544 nil ;; No extra headers
545 nil ;; No extra body text
549 "John Doe <john.doe@example.com>"
551 (("Bcc" . "john.doe@example.com"))
553 "~/.signature.work")))
554 ;; Use "home" identity by default
555 (setq gnus-alias-default-identity "home")
556 ;; Define rules to match work identity
557 (setq gnus-alias-identity-rules
558 '(("work" ("any" "john.doe@\\(example\\.com\\|help\\.example.com\\)" both) "work"))
559 ;; Determine identity when message-mode loads
560 (add-hook 'message-setup-hook 'gnus-alias-determine-identity)
562 When `gnus-alias` has been loaded (using autoload, require, *M-x load-library*
563 or *M-x load-file* (load-file takes file path -- therefore it can be used
564 without any `.emacs` changes)) the following commands can be used to get(/set)
565 more information (some of these have "extensive documentation"):
567 M-x describe-variable RET gnus-alias-identity-alist
568 M-x describe-variable RET gnus-alias-identity-rules
569 M-x describe-variable RET gnus-alias-default-identity
571 M-x customize-group RET gnus-alias RET
573 M-x gnus-alias-customize RET
575 The last two do the same thing.
577 See also the **Usage:** section in `gnus-alias.el`.
579 ## Resending (or bouncing) messages
581 Add the following to your `.emacs` to be able to resend the current message in
584 (define-key notmuch-show-mode-map "b"
585 (lambda (&optional address)
586 "Bounce the current message."
587 (interactive "sBounce To: ")
588 (notmuch-show-view-raw-message)
589 (message-resend address)))
591 ## `notmuch-hello` refresh status message
593 Add the following to your `.emacs` to get a status message about the change in
594 the number of messages in the mail store when refreshing the `notmuch-hello`
597 (defvar notmuch-hello-refresh-count 0)
599 (defun notmuch-hello-refresh-status-message ()
603 (car (process-lines notmuch-command "count"))))
604 (diff-count (- new-count notmuch-hello-refresh-count)))
606 ((= notmuch-hello-refresh-count 0)
607 (message "You have %s messages."
608 (notmuch-hello-nice-number new-count)))
610 (message "You have %s more messages since last refresh."
611 (notmuch-hello-nice-number diff-count)))
613 (message "You have %s fewer messages since last refresh."
614 (notmuch-hello-nice-number (- diff-count)))))
615 (setq notmuch-hello-refresh-count new-count))))
617 (add-hook 'notmuch-hello-refresh-hook 'notmuch-hello-refresh-status-message)
619 ## Replacing tabs with spaces in subject and header
621 Mailman mailing list software rewrites and rewraps long message subjects in
622 a way that causes TABs to appear in the middle of the subject and header
623 lines. Add this to your `.emacs` to replace tabs with spaces in subject
626 (defun notmuch-show-subject-tabs-to-spaces ()
627 "Replace tabs with spaces in subject line."
628 (goto-char (point-min))
629 (when (re-search-forward "^Subject:" nil t)
630 (while (re-search-forward "\t" (line-end-position) t)
631 (replace-match " " nil nil))))
633 (add-hook 'notmuch-show-markup-headers-hook 'notmuch-show-subject-tabs-to-spaces)
635 And in header lines (this will only work with the yet to be released
636 notmuch version 0.15):
638 (defun notmuch-show-header-tabs-to-spaces ()
639 "Replace tabs with spaces in header line."
640 (setq header-line-format
641 (notmuch-show-strip-re
642 (replace-regexp-in-string "\t" " " (notmuch-show-get-subject)))))
644 (add-hook 'notmuch-show-hook 'notmuch-show-header-tabs-to-spaces)
646 ## Hiding unread messages in notmuch-show
648 I like to have an inbox saved search, but only show unread messages when they
649 view a thread. This takes two steps:
652 [this patch from Mark Walters](http://notmuchmail.org/pipermail/notmuch/2012/010817.html)
653 to add the `notmuch-show-filter-thread` function.
654 1. Add the following hook to your emacs configuration:
656 (defun expand-only-unread-hook () (interactive)
658 (open (notmuch-show-get-message-ids-for-open-messages)))
659 (notmuch-show-mapc (lambda ()
660 (when (member "unread" (notmuch-show-get-tags))
663 (let ((notmuch-show-hook (remove 'expand-only-unread-hook notmuch-show-hook)))
664 (notmuch-show-filter-thread "tag:unread")))))
666 (add-hook 'notmuch-show-hook 'expand-only-unread-hook)
668 ## Changing the color of a saved search based on some other search
670 I like to have a saved search for my inbox, but have it change color when there
671 are thread with unread messages in the inbox. I accomplish this with the
672 following code in my emacs config:
674 (defun color-inbox-if-unread () (interactive)
676 (goto-char (point-min))
677 (let ((cnt (car (process-lines "notmuch" "count" "tag:inbox and tag:unread"))))
678 (when (> (string-to-number cnt) 0)
680 (when (search-forward "inbox" (point-max) t)
681 (let* ((overlays (overlays-in (match-beginning 0) (match-end 0)))
682 (overlay (car overlays)))
684 (overlay-put overlay 'face '((:inherit bold) (:foreground "green")))))))))))
685 (add-hook 'notmuch-hello-refresh-hook 'color-inbox-if-unread)
687 ## Linking to notmuch messages and threads from the Circe IRC client
689 [Circe](https://github.com/jorgenschaefer/circe/wiki) is an IRC client for emacs.
690 To have clickable buttons for notmuch messages and threads, add the following to
691 `lui-buttons-list` (using, e.g. M-x customize-variable)
693 ("\\(?:id\\|mid\\|thread\\):[0-9A-Za-z][0-9A-Za-z.@-]*" 0 notmuch-show 0)
695 If you have notmuch-pick installed, it works fine for this as well.